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Lary Doe's avatar

Fertility vs Birth Rate is a labeling issue. Fertility captures within a specified age-range (reproductive age) whereas Birth-rate captures a population as a whole. Education, Birth control and establishing professional standing affect fertility. Add those and any other statistic as a reason for the population rate to change.

Leaving the "We're no longer an Agrarian Economy" aside, the average age of a person in the US is 37. 10 years higher than a generation ago. (Immigration changes will push this upwards in the near term before we rebalance.)

Rhimes, Sandberg, etc are all just addressing Preception Bias carrying forward something Fisher wrote in the 80's, "Getting to Yes". For them adding in gender roll biases but downplaying income disparities that elevate their ability to resolve certain daily issues, is about them addressing guilt. It's public self-soothing promoting societal changes that have been occurring since the 70's.

The choices we make, in turn, make us. Control is an illusion.

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Phillip Tussing's avatar

So many things...

First: YES! Shonda is right. I have also seen this.

Second: Shonda -- and I -- are in positions of privilege -- we have the ability to take advantage of more expensive yesses, harder to access yesses. I took a summer in Europe when I was in college. It was not that expensive -- I bought a Eurailpass and slept in youth hostels and ate a lot of bread and cheese -- but I did not have to work (I had saved money working at the local department store in high school -- but I also did not have to spend that money on clothes and food & cet). Shonda can say yes to being on TV -- I said yes to acting in a play with my daughter at a local community theater, which I felt not too nervous about, because I had done a ton of theater in high school and college -- 30 years previously, before life happened. See what I mean? Not everyone can say yes to everything. No, you really cannot do whatever you want. But you definitely can leverage what you have, and turn that into more! And you never know where that can lead -- maybe to life satisfaction.

Oh -- TV and fertility... You understand what happened, right? What was it on the TV that changed all those women's lives? IT WAS THE SOAP OPERAS!!! I am not kidding at all. The most watched programming in Spanish in the two American continents are Mexican soap operas -- this, by the way, is why Mexican Spanish can be understood everywhere in the Americas. Exactly the same in the Arab world with respect to Egyptian soap operas -- which is why Egyptian Arabic, which is not at all universal in the Arab world, is nevertheless universally understood. And of course all the conservative clerics rail against it, and no one listens. Same with Hindi soap operas in India, Nigerian soap operas in large swathes of Africa, and of course US ones in English. Women become obsessed with the lives of these free, upper class women, and they want to have that ability to work and have a meaningful life outside the home, freedom to make decisions, etc. I hope this does not let the secret out, and inspire a generation of socially controlling dictators to change the format. China is a warning of what happens when they do. Chinese state TV is hopelessly boring (like Soviet TV was too), and no one watches it willingly (in the USSR the TV was required to be on all the time, and so a generation of Soviets grew up able to filter out the background noise of propaganda and pap). But currently there is a huge surge in independently produced 2-minute soap opera segments that people watch obsessively alongside the modern Chinese busy stressful life.

One last thing: the domestic economy. I periodically get mad at how utterly the economics profession ignores household production. Yes, of course GDP primarily follows commercial production, as it should -- Kuznets initiated this industry in 1934 to see how well the US economy was recovering from the Great Depression (badly). But we do not have solid date on what households produce. I'm not talking about making meals and cleaning and fixing things -- the BEA does a pretty good job on this (here: https://www.bea.gov/data/special-topics/household-production). I mean the PURPOSE OF HOUSEHOLDS, which is sexual services, companionship services (there is a market price for this in Japan. No, I'm not kidding), quality parenting. Like: by how much is income over a subsequent lifetime improved by high quality vs average parenting services, net of education and income? Nobody knows. If anyone out there has a graduate student who wants to dedicate a career to teasing out such data, I'd love to hear the results.

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